Thursday, June 29, 2006

3 TAMMUZ - CAN THERE BE ANOTHER LUBAVITCHER REBBE?


Originally posted at mentalblog.com (Thread: Living charismatic leader):

1…The Rebbe gave instructions that "after 120" people should turn to for guidance to "3 chassidishe rabbonim.” These instructions would not be necessary for chassidim who are supposed to choose a new Rebbe.

2. From "day one", the Rebbe said (I know [some] would like to say beoifen shel tefillo - but it is simply not the case) that this was the last generation (and by calling it shevii, he made it clear that the term generation was a reference to the nessiim) of golus...
The Rebbe thereby precluded the possibility of deir HaShmini coming onto the scene.

3. From "day one" the Rebbe referred to the Previous Rebbe as nasi doireinu - setting up a very clear & obvious example to follow post 3 Tammuz.
But I will agree [that] the Rebbe never said peh molei: “There shall be no other Rebbes onto you!”. However, the above mentioned are the most reasonable and obvious interpretations of his various hanhogois & statements. These interpretations are supported by the facts on the ground – the obvious absence of even remotely suitable “candidate”.

berl, crown heights 07.18.05 - 9:10 pm #

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…Look up the sicha containing instructions for "after 120..." (said during the shiva for the Rebbetzin). But perhaps more significantly, the way the Rebbe described his nessius from "day one" made it clear "this was it".

berl, crown heights 07.18.05 - 8:02 pm #
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The question is not whether a new Rebbe possible. The question is much deeper, it is really all about the core motivation. To borrow from the great Rogatchover: "did you come to the Rebbe to Leningrad or to Leningrad to the Rebbe? There are 16 nafka minos lehalocho between the two..."

Does a chossid need a Rebbe so that he can be a better Jew? Or does he need to be a better Jew so that he can be connected to the Rebbe? For most Lubavitchers it is the latter. It is very clear that from day one, the Rebbe himself saw his nessius as that of a chosem vesium. This continued to be so for the rest of the nessius. In that context, what is there to talk about ... ?

berl, crown heights 07.15.05 - 3:30 am #
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It is … a huge doichek to say that the momentous "after 120" sichoh was really just a directive for [a] "between the Rebbes" period.
If circumstances were such, that reality (in form of an obviously qualified "Rebbe candidate") was at odds with those obvious & simple interpretations, one could contemplate docheik-type interpretations.
But post 3 Tammuz, the obvious reality and the obvious interpretations are at peace with each other…

berl, crown heights 07.19.05 - 12:28 am #

1 Comments:

At 2:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

unfortunately, I do not think it is wise to continue without a Rebbe. There is too much splintering, too little guidance. We need someone. Somebody to show us.

 

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